Scar tissue in urethra after neobladder surgery

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My husband had neobladder surgery June 15. All was going well until an infection July 16. He was admitted back to the hospital for 4 days, he still had the malacot tube. He was voiding on schedule (only 20 to 50 cc from the tube after voiding normally) and didn't seem to have a problem. When he had the infection they told him to use the bag for the first week to keep the bladder as empty as possible and restart voiding normally and finish emptying with the malacot the second week. This is when he noticed that voiding normally wasn't going as well as before. He either urinated very little or at times not at all.  We thought it may be due to mucus blocking the opening. We called the clinic but they didn't have us come in sooner than the scheduled appointment.

Returned to the clinic July 31 for malacot removal. Our surgeon has left UW Madison for Boston so we saw a physician assistant. He told her about his concerns with voiding. She removed the malacot and then he attempted to learn to catherize, which didn't work. The nurse, pa, and finally a doctor came in and it couldn't be done. The doctor reinserted the malacot tube, but a smaller one, before this opening narrowed.

They performed a cystoscopy and found that the opening from the bladder to the urethra was way too narrow. They inserted catheters to stretch it open, this  was extremely painful for him. He was sent home with a foley catheter  and then return in 2 weeks to see if this procedure would keep it open. He doesn't think it will and will need some sort of surgery to fix this problem. 

Has anyone had this problem and what was done to correct it?

 


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Scott Smith
August 04, 2009
207.115.68.162

No good news here.
I closed up at about 1 year. Spent the night in the ER because I couldn't cath. They drained me through the abdominal wall. Went to the Uro the next morning and went through the 8 step dialation. Yup, it hurt...
I was told that I should stay away from the stent, they are nothing but trouble after 6 months. I was also told that I could have cuts in the scarring that might allow me to urinate. Then again, they might make me incontinent for the rest of my life.
I cath with a big one in the morning for about 7-8 minutes while shaving then use smaller ones during the day as needed.
It ain't great, but it works.

pkleman
August 04, 2009
143.236.35.214

Hi Scott
Thanks for the post, it gives us info to ask more questions at our next visit. Nothing was explained about a stent, what kind of trouble would that cause? Laser surgery was mentioned but no details of what the procedure involves. We weren't told about cutting the scarring as an option. Do you have to cath all the time now because you choose not to have the scarring removed? Do you have to set an alarm and cath throughout the night also? I emailed Dr. Gee and he called last night and reassured John that scarring can happen and they are doing the right steps at this time. Pat

Scott Smith
August 25, 2009
207.115.68.162

As I mentioned above, my neobladder worked for about a year. It slowly closed up over the last few months and one night I just couldn't pee. Oh boy.smilies/sad.gif
After the dialation, I asked about the stent. My Uro told me that stents will work for about 6 months and then they too will close up. The scar tissue will either grow through them or around them. (They are mesh-like.) Either way, stents will be OK for a while but in 6 months or even less the problem can be much worse. Then you have to deal with scarring and an embedded stent.
He also told me that he could go in and cut channels through the scar tissue with a laser. (I would be out for that procedure.) Problem is, since the scar tissue is so close to the sphincter that controls urine flow, that the least little error can make you incontinent for the rest of your life. Also, there is no way to remove all of the scar tissue effectivly, it will just grow back.
For me, given the choice between catheters and diapers, I'll go for the catheters any day.
I cath 6-7 times a day, sometimes more, sometime less. At about 9 months I had regained regained contenence so I can now sleep through the night. You do have to watch your liquid intake after supper, though.
I dont know about the rest of my fellow neobladder-ites, but I have found that all it takes is the slightest hint that you have to pee and it wakes you right up. I guess there is something about the initial bedwetting that gets your mind attuned to the signals you receive.
One more thing, dialation lasted about 6 weeks for me. And I agree, it REALLY hurt.
Hang in there.
Scott

Dave Bloore
September 15, 2009
24.210.129.100

I am new here! I had neobladder surgery 3-19-09. Since the surgery I can urinate without the use of a catheter...thank God! My uro recently moved to Hawaii so I need a new one. He was the only one where I live. This surgery has been a life changing experience. I am 6 months post-op and I hope there are no future complications. Any feedback would be appreciated!


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